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Sight Reading
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One of the most important factors in sight-reading is rhythm: know where
the beat is and how what is written fits in to it. For this, you might try
Music Speed Reading by David Hickman (pub. Trigram Music). I ordered my
copy several years ago from Robert King. Nicholas Perrini wwrites the
following in his introduction to his book: Developing Accuracy Through
Sightreading:
Accurate sightreading is not a technique developed purely by chance, but
rather the result of an awareness of specific reading procedures which
must be nurtured through careful practice. The object of these etudes is
to acquaint the student with these procedures.
One etude should be chosen for each pracgtice period and practiced as
follows. Before starting, the student should skim through the entire
etude visually and take note of the following salient points:
- A. Key signature(s)
- B. Time signature(s)
- C. Tempo (Phrases)
- D. Breathing places
- E. Dynamics and articulation
- F. Accidentals or other unusual notations
Later on Perrini writes:
Once the etude has been started, the student should make every effort to
play it through to the end. The mistakes should be examined after playing
the etude, and not when they occur; the eyes must follow the contour of
the melodic line, and not look back to check errors.
Norman Barker writes the following in his book: Sight Reading and
Technique for Students, Teachers and Performers on Trumpet; French <sic>
Horn; Cornet; flugel Horn; tenor Horn; Euphonium:
...it has been found that where quite advanced players experience
difficulties with rapid passages, the root cause is almost always a
reading problem rather than purely a technical one, the player not having
developed the habit of reading groups of notes ahead in the contest of
rhythmic pattern, and mentally programming the fingerings in advance.
I hope this helps. Good luck in your progress!
John schreckengost
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I've found that the biggest improvement on my sight reading was the
aural skills class I had to take in conjunction with freshman and
sophomore music theory. Few things will help as much in playing the
notes than actually being able to sing them without the aid of the
horn. Better sight singing = better sight reading.
Rory McDaniel
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I have never before had the temerity to dispute with the more learned
contributors to this group, but on the subject of sight-reading my
impression is that the causes and cures are being over-analyzed. I am and
have always been a very fast reader of the printed word, even with
unfamiliar and difficult material like scientific papers. But on the horn,
I am a terrible sight reader. Even at slow tempi, I occasionally make idiot
fumbles like playing Bb fingerings with the Bb trigger in the F position and
vice versa. In my case, at least, I think it's a physical deficiency,
described (though not explained) as lousy eye-hand coordination. I can
visualize a horse, but I can't draw one. I can hear a phrase in my mind's
ear, but even when I know the phrase really well, aurally, I can't play it
except with many repetitions. Of course, it didn't help to have spent my
early years playing after-beats in a community band. And I would probably
be a better sight-reader if at some time in my life I had worked
specifically on sight-reading. But my opinion, based on my experience, is
that I would have been a bad sight-reader no matter what I did about it.
Ralph Mazza
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I've found that the biggest improvement on my sight reading was the
aural skills class I had to take in conjunction with freshman and
sophomore music theory. Few things will help as much in playing the
notes than actually being able to sing them without the aid of the
horn. Better sight singing = better sight reading.
I think it was Tuckwell who wrote in his book on horn playing
that the process was 75% mental - 25% percent physical. So
the more you know, more you can hear, more you can sing without
the horn, the better off you probably are.
I know that I've had a couple of times when I've been able to
walk into situations and read parts (not 100% but darn close)
because I had 10 minutes earlier in the day to just sit down
and look through the entire part. I circled important things like
key changes, mutes, etc., fingered through tricky passages and
made notes, and just hummed the whole thing to myself to get
it in my ear.
Margaret
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Just a Moose-thought on sight reading.
Perhaps it is just me, but I cannot imagine how anyone on any wind instrument
can play ANYTHING without first hearing it in their mind...unless you are
playing by radar or muscle-memory.
My simple moose-like suggestion is to SING the passage first, then look away
from the passage and play it on your horn. If you can't do that, then buzz the
passage on your mouthpiece. If you can't buzz the passage, then practice until
you CAN!
Then put the chunks together and play the passage.
After all, transcending the mechanical aspects of the instrument is what we
are eventually practicing to do, right?
Eventually, you ought to be pretty much oblivious that a horn is even
involved.
Just a dumb, moose-like speculation.
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Well, sight reading is a great problem even for famous players. I noticed
that, when we did some clinician ensemble during my nearly twenty years
participating on workshops. I noticed that also by watching my professional
colleagues, when they practised afterbeats in Verdi operas, only because
some A- or Aflat-basso transposition was involved.
How to overcome this ordeal ?
Very simple, indeed. But much too late for most professionals with sight
reading problems.
Play through everykind of available music in a manner, that no severe
accident takes place. We called this "notenfressen" in Vienna. (devour music
notes). How is this possible ? Yeah, enough etudes during the study, enough
technical training, developing an excellent playing skill - I said SKILL -
so eyes & fingers plus lips work in an automatic circuit, where the brain
has nothing elso to do as "character (music notes) recognition". The
transition into finger & lipcommands must work instantly. If you still have
fingering problems, you will be lost anyway.
How to avoid these fingering problems ? USE THE REGULAR FINGERINGS ONLY !!!!
Correct intonation by the lips or the right hand. But this again requires a
WELL trained EAR plus LISTENING to the other players. I say this here, as we
should talk about sight reading while in the orchestra. Sight reading during
your practise session ? Well, thatīs not a problem, as you can stop playing
anywhere, without getting lost.
But prepare yourself in your practise sessions through "notenfressen". Go
through all possible excerpt books from top to end & backwards & from first
horn to eight horn, go through & again go through all parts. Play through
even pieces you might never encounter in the orchestra as they are out of
repertoire. Anyway a good exercise.
Learn to read in advance. Learn to read music while humming it or singing it
through. This will save your lip power. When playing high stuff, do extreme
low stuff the following half hour to relaxe.
How about transposing ? Go back to Kopprasch & do all the exercises in the
several keys as indicated. But do it FAST, not in tempo, but in progressing
from one exercise to the next, do all the variations. Avoid studying every
single note. It is not necessary. Do not practise things you can do well
allready. Kopprasch boring ? Well, this depends on how YOU play these etudes
not only upon the written text. Get this technique programmed into your
brain. Get a knowledge how the music line should be to make yourself able to
ANTICIPATE.
Do not get stuck with one piece for a much too long time. Learn to study
quickly. Not HAMMERING everything into your brain or into your embouchure or
your fingers. If you need too long for a particular piece, blame your
teacher as he or she has given you a task for which you are not matured
(horn technique wise) enough seemingly.
To illustrate, how I made up my sight reading skill, Iīll come back soon
with a longer email, describing the Viennese study plan during Stieglerīs &
von Freiberg`s time, just my own study plan or Roland Bergerīs study plan.
A word, which will not please everybody:
didnīt you notice that those horn players who have studied a stringed
instrument first or the same time as studying the horn, have a much better
sight reading ability ???
Greetings from Munich
Prof.Hans Pizka
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In addition to singing parts (in order to get notes, intervals, etc. into
your head and soul) another way to get rhythms is to CLAP the notes. If you
are playing in an ensemble, have the ensemble CLAP their parts as well.
This really helps, as does singing.
Catherine
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Some of the best performing musicians I have met come from the county of
Estonia. Their music education system requires extensive and continuous
training in sight singing from an early age. As a result, their musicianship
(especially choir music) is truly exceptional in terms of their ease of
learning new pieces and pitch placement and general tonal
stability--particularly in acappella settings.
More emphasis on sight singing could only help Western musicians--horn players
included.
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A word, which will not please everybody:
didnīt you notice that those horn players who have studied a
stringed
instrument first or the same time as studying the horn, have a
much better
sight reading ability ???
A reply, which may not please everybody either: stringed
instruments are more difficult to play and have more notes than horn, so
switching from sightreading the 1st violin part, with its multitude of
possible fingerings that must be decided on and executed in an instant,
to horn, which has fewer notes and a much smaller selection of
fingerings, makes sight reading on the horn an easier task.
IMHO. Flame suit on.
Mary Ann
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Hi Mary,
I have no argument with that, they have way too many notes - chords even
(input overload makes my brain hurt, I don't even get near a piano). It my
case it has come down to experience that comes with years of playing.
Generally speaking, with any new material, it's not that its that new, it's
just different. I've played all the rhythms before, as well as the notes
several times before, it's just that they have been rearranged. Now, throw
in transposing (H basso), bass clef, and stopped, I lock up and have to
reboot :-)......Paul, don't touch my reset button.
Thanks for playing,
Steve
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In at least one very large state in the Southern part of the US(hint: T*X*S)
the bands have to go though sight reading contests along with concert and
marching contest. I know Kentucky use to have that. Sadly, in Indiana I
got through HS with out hardly ANY reading skills. We learned almost by
rote. Does your state or country have sight reading contests?
Leonard
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A word, which will not please everybody:
didnīt you notice that those horn players who have studied a stringed
instrument first or the same time as studying the horn, have a much better
sight reading ability ??
Even if we admit that the viola is a musical instrument, we must remember that
violists are often frustrated wind players, who probably had trouble sight
reading to begin with.
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WHOA!!!! Check your facts in the Guinesis Book of World Records. Hardest
instruments to play...Horn and oboe.
The point is the difficulty of the music, not the instrument, Remember we
are discussing sight reading skills, try sight reading violin music on the
horn of course adjusted for range), then have a violin player sight read
horn music. Sic 'em Bears
Thanks for playing,
Steve
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Hiya,
You're right Carlberg, I was a very frustrated viola player. I could
hardly get a good forte outta that thing.
Seriously, playing a stringed instrument helps a lot. You don't miss
notes the same way horn players do, by hitting a different note; you miss
them by a smidgen and have to use your knowledge and ear to make the
corrections. After a while you develop a sense of where your fingers
should go more from where you think it will produce the right pitch
rather than by mechanics.
On the lighter side, I had a deal with the conductor when I was a grad
student and didn't have to play in the orchestra. He wanted a horn
player, so we made a deal that I could play viola in whatever pieces they
did that didn't have horn parts.
I had just picked up the viola. The first concert we played a Bach
orchestral suite. One of my profs said the funniest thing he ever saw was
the confused look on my face as I tried to scrub away on that thing and
get as many of the notes I could figure out as the piece raced by.
The rest of the year every single piece they played had horn parts.
Coincidence?
scottito
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Along with horn I play Guitar, Cello, and was a voice major in college. I
am not sure that strings helped my sight reading but I know the Vocal
training did. James P. Freund
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In at least one very large state in the Southern part of the US(hint: T*X*S)
the bands have to go though sight reading contests along with concert and
marching contest. I know Kentucky use to have that. Sadly, in Indiana I
got through HS with out hardly ANY reading skills. We learned almost by
rote. Does your state or country have sight reading contests?
It may come as quite a shock to some of our members, especially young
members in the South and Midwest, but...
There are elite music venues in which the participants do not consider
themselves involved in a competitive sport.
Of course it is desirable to sight read well because the ability to
read and understand written notation nearly instantly is correlated
strongly with the musical insight necessary to perform the music well.
But the purpose of sight reading isn't to win competitions.
I've been reading the ongoing posts about tryouts for "All State" and
whatever, and I've always found the attitude unsettling.
Competitiveness gets in the way of making music -- competitiveness is
not what music is about. I think even the competitive pressure of
auditioning constantly for this or that chair may be harmful to
winning one, or to executing a position successfully after winning it.
I'm just thinking, but perhaps the educational establishment has set
up a competitive system that is well-intentioned but ultimately works
against what it is trying to achieve.
Winning an audition is competitive, and so is getting into med school.
But I wouldn't want a doctor with the competitive attitude of many
young musicians. (Hey, I removed a gall-bladder faster and higher
than you did! And I sight-read the operation -- first time I ever did
one!) I want one who is professional and dedicated to the task. I
want to play with musicians who are dedicated and accomplished. This
isn't quite the same thing as competitiveness.
If you want a blood sport, try out for football or join the Marines.
(But not the Marine Band -- those guys are musicians.) Steve Haflich
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There are elite music venues in which the participants do not consider
themselves involved in a competitive sport.
Here's a question for my fellow Southerners. When I went to school in
Texas (up to and including high school), I found that the music programs
put most emphasis on concert playing. Marching band was an aside. (In
fact, in my high school, it was considered such an unnecessary aside it was
dropped altogether.) When I came to Oklahoma for college, I noticed that
the regional high schools are incredibly fanatic about marching band.
Their concert bands don't really impress like the Texas ones did, but they
have some great shows, and apparently they do very well nationally from
what I'm told. So I've learned to characterize Texas as the "concert band"
state and Oklahoma as the "marching band" state. Has anyone else noticed
this, or is that just me?
And to comfort Steve, IMHO All-State competition isn't quite as competitive
as you may think. I can't think of any time I went in thinking "hey, I
want to play higher/faster/louder/better than X person." Instead, I went
in with the attitude of wanting to make State -- how others did was
inconsequential. As such, it's really more a "competition" with yourself
-- personal improvement and achievement over "beating" the next guy. I
didn't feel like I was in competition with the other folks trying out, and
from the friendly and supportive attitude everyone had there, I don't think
they did either. In fact, I think the comparison to med school is a good
one. People are trying to get in. As long as they do so, that's all that
matters. If everyone who tried out was accepted into State, they'd all be
just as happy as if everyone who applied to med school made it in. At that
level, chair ranking per se loses a lot of its meaning, so interpersonal
competition is not very common. Again, all this is IMHO. If anyone in
Texas state didn't feel that way, I'd be interested in hearing it.
George Nassar
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George,
My School was completely opposite, ALL emphesis was on marching band.
You can ask my old instructor Howard Hilliard, cuz he complained about
it all through the fall! LoL. Anyways, we did do well, tied for 7th in
State, our concert band....well =) Actually it wasn't too bad, but then
again it wasn't too good either.
God Bless,
Matt
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competitiveness is
not what music is about.
But, IMHO, competitiveness is what keeps music at the level it is at. If it
were not competitive, people would not work as hard to win a job, or an
audition and so on. Competitiveness keeps the best of the best working to be
better. I am glad that there is competition....otherwise I wouldn't be where
I am today.
I am not saying that all competition is healthy. When a nameless person
cements someones valves down because they are getting too close to their first
chair spot....that is just sick (to me). But healthy competition in many ways
aids the young player. Gets them motivated to practice...etc etc.
Go at it listers. *grin*
Meredith
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But my opinion, based on my experience, is
that I would have been a bad sight-reader no matter what I did about it.
To a degree I would agree with Ralph Mazza.
As one who has fought hard to improve her (fairly poor) sight reading skills
for 25 years, I think there are some very important things to be learned
from those of us who *don't* do it well.
Because I went to a very small school (we graduated about 50 seniors each
year), our school, perhaps inevitably, had an extremely poor band (and no
orchestra, of course). The sight reading practice offered by participation
in that group was negligible, and for years, I thought that was the reason I
was so far behind my fellow college musicians when it came to my sight
reading abilities.
But recently, as I have begun to think more deeply about the issue (as I
said, I've battled *hard* for 25 years to 'catch up') I've come to realize
that it's all more complex than that. For instance, while it is true that I
didn't have much in the way of challenging sight reading experience in my
early years, it is also true, that, despite the fact that I was far and away
the best musician that small school had (and, in fact, the best they have
had to date), there were many in even that band who were better sight
readers than I! Throughout my 'career' (such as it is, as I've always been
an amateur) as a horn player, I've frequently found *much* less accomplished
horn players to be much better sight readers.
There is something, either 'hard-wired' into the human brain, or perhaps in
the way people 'route the task' through their brain, that makes some people
better sight readers than others.
In 25 years, I have been able to change myself from 'terrible sight reader'
to 'not a bad sight reader.' I'd be bitter about it, if it weren't for the
realization that *most* horn playing skills came much more easily to me than
to most - good quality tone, intonation, 'musicality', lip flexibility and
accuracy were skills that seemed to (comparatively speaking) fall into my
lap.
In my case, the discrepancy between my technical horn-playing abilities and
my ability to sight-read was so pronounced, that I know my horn professor
thought I might have some sort of brain dysfunction.
I'd be interested in a discussion, if anyone has any insights to offer, into
how the brain processes the music the eye reads, and the path this
information takes on it's way from the brain to the horn.
Further information on my particular "case" :
I have equal difficulty sight-reading piano music, although I play piano
fairly well. (For example, I can play Debussy's 2nd Arabesque, but have
extreme difficulty reading a simple, four part hymn.)
I can type nearly 90 wpm, despite the fact that I haven't worked nearly so
hard on typing as I have on sight-reading!! (so I don't think it's a
'hand/eye' coordination thing.)
I read and comprehend text *extremely* quickly and accurately, but sometimes
have difficulty (stumble over words) when trying to read aloud.
I am unable to quickly distinguish "left" from "right". (In other words, if
you tell me "Turn right here!", I will have to stop and think which way that
is. It's not instinctual like "up" and "down" for me. However, if you say
"first base" or "third base", I'll immediately look in the correct
direction. The same is true for "Treble Clef" and "Bass Clef" - as a piano
player, I instinctively know which hand you're talking about!)
There do seem to be times when something seems to 'click' inside my head,
and I find my sight-reading ability becomes suddenly *much* more accurate
and easy. This phenomenon usually lasts for the remainder of that
particular playing /practice session, and disappears by the next time I
play.
I have also noticed that if I go directly from an extremely analytical
'left-brain' oriented task to playing my horn, I sometimes have difficulty
playing well (musically speaking - by this I mean my interpretation becomes
very wooden, stodgy, and labored) but my sight reading ability seems perhaps
a little better.
I know when my husband did his Master's Thesis on music and learning styles
(which covered the way the brain processes music) he found very little
research other than the Rauscher ("Mozart Effect") stuff. Has anyone out
there found more information, or do you have any anecdotal observations from
your own life as a musician?
Gretchen Vork
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Gretchen,
I find all that interesting. I'm curious: how good are you at
mathematics, particularly, how well did you do in geometry in high
school, and was there a difference between your geometry ability and
your algebra ability?
I am the opposite type of player from you; I can sight read almost as
well as I can play, and sometimes practicing a piece actually makes me
play it worse. I can sight read any single line of music, such as violin
or horn, but I'm awful at sightreading piano or classical guitar music,
i.e., music with several lines going at once. Although I think that
could improve with the right kind of practice (learning to recognize
printed chords, all of them) I haven't been motivated to put in the
time.
As for the math thread, I got A's all the way through calculus and
differential equations. To me, these courses were all about the ability
to recognize patterns and know which type of solution fit the problem.
With sight reading, a lot of it has to do with patterns also -- scale,
arpeggio, and rhythm patterns. A good ear is essential.
I have a couple of friends who are good horn players, but they have
different problems with sight reading. One can't find the pitches but
plays the piece well once he figures out what it sounds like, and the
other can get the pitches but gets lost in the notes and loses the
rhythm. Listening to the two of them trying to sight read a duet can be
interesting.
Mary Ann
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The sight reading practice offered by participation
in that group was negligible, and for years, I thought that was the
reason I
was so far behind my fellow college musicians when it came to my sight
reading abilities.
But recently, as I have begun to think more deeply about the issue (as I
said, I've battled *hard* for 25 years to 'catch up') I've come to
realize
that it's all more complex than that. For instance, while it is true
that I
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As a horn teacher I'm very interested in sight reading skills and methods
to improve it. I agree it is a complex topic. I don't have many good
answers on how to improve it. However, I am inclined to think that early
reading experience does play a part.
Recently I heard string players in audition for our regional orchestra. Two
of them played really nicely, and did some quite challenging concerto
movements. When we presented them with sight reading, they floundered
horribly. They almost could not sight read AT ALL. I was quite surprised,
based on their technical skills. We learned later that they had been
trained in Suzuki method. This method has been updated from its original
form because students often achieved good technique at advanced levels
all by 'rote'. Sometimes they never learned to sight read at any age, and
had skill 'voids' in sight-reading. I continue to notice people remarking
on
this disadvantage of the Suzuki method even now that they introduce
reading much sooner. I'm not knocking the method, but I wonder if has
shown us anything of the nature of learning to sight read.
My usual advice to students is to play slower but with absolute
continuity--
never stopping for mistakes. Managing to find material to sight read in
true
'first sight' contexts is helpful too, but hard to structure in practice.
Finding
material that is at good 'challenge' level is important too. Chamber music
sight reading is great, and I get my students together often to read
quartets
and the like.
Avoid stopping at every little crack and fault. I have had some students
that were
so constipated by years of doing this that they often simply stopped in the
middle
of a passage even though a mistake had not yet taken place.
If anybody has some really effective methods to teach sight reading, I'm
very
interested. I really believe that sight reading can be improved
tremendously over
a period of time, but it takes a lot of discipline and consistent practice.
Robert Dickow
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I have had some students that were so constipated
Perhaps you should try some of Joshua Cheuvrant's castor oil.
Dave
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