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Memorizing music and the benfits on playing
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I just experienced the most uncanny thing! I have been hacking away
at the third movement of Morart three. I for some reason couldn't play it
well. I was alway screwing up something , articulation, transposition,
time.
Any way by now I have the whole movement ingrained in my memory. So
out of what I think was just lazyness and frustration at the time, I
attempted to play it from memory. I didn't really fell like gettin the
music out. I ended up playing the whole thing better than I'd ever played
before!
Maybe this is a common knowlege, but I feel as if I've had a mini
revolution of thought. By commiting something to memory I can play it
better. I actually went back and attempted to play it from the sheet and
it came out worse.
I guess this is because I have one of those photographic memories.
Memorization always seemed to be a step taken when after one had perfected
the peice (or atleast knew it really well) I've only been playing it for
about two weeks! I've never really tryed to play from memory before, I
never had to, no one had ever suggested it to me. I think I'll start
trying to memorize everything! Memorization comes pretty easy to me.
I just thought I'd share that with you all, I'm really excited! Does
any one know what I'm talking about? There are many diffrent styles of
learning so I would assume that this meathod would not be usefull for every
one, but what about you visual learners, others with photographic
memories?
Richard Paquette
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I'm not surprised, however the result may not so much be as a result of
photographic memory, but because you had internalised piece and were able to
focus and concentrate on the MUSIC without the distraction of the sheet music.
Here are a few observations on memorization:
- Most technique is based on memorization - "TECHNIQUE IS MEMORIZATION".
Horn players would do well to look at the finger and bowing exercises of
string players. The daily exercises for the 'Cello would surprise you. If
you consider notes as (letters), it is very useful to learn your technique
in small groups (words) until you are "word perfect" and then string them
together into longer (phrases). These exercises are meant to be practiced
daily and may take many years to achieve but it lays the foundation of good
playing technique.
- It is not necessary to have a "photographic" memory - in fact I think
this could be a distraction as one really has to remember the music, which
is essentially "aural" not "visual". Granted, one needs to have a concept
of the phrasing, articulation, rhythm etc. (visualize?), but this is
internalised hopefully in your brain (in one's mind's eye? or is it your
soul?) and played from the "heart". There are many great musicians who
cannot read a note of music but this does not prevent them from expressing
themselves beautifully and effectively in music. In Trinidad & Tobago our
Seel (Drum) Orchestras (Pan) memorize complete symphonies - The musicians
often cannot read music and it is learned completely be "ear" from the word
go. I would challenge any "professional" musician memorize the complete
orchestral parts of a two and a half hour performance. Its like an actor
having to remember lines. It's possible but it requires constant repetition
until the part is burnt into your brain and can be retrieved without
hesitition or prompting. Only then can you forget the butterflies and get on
with the performance.
- PRACTICE makes PERFECT : Beware of this statement, as this is not
necessarily so. In most cases it does exactly the opposite. My version is
"PRACTICE makes PERMANENT". Therefore in order to achieve a level of
"Perfection" one must have a very clear concept of what "Perfection" is (to
you and/or your audience). This is why a beginning student needs the BEST
teacher he/she can get in order to build a solid base of good technique and
musicianship. This aviods having to correct playing problems which were
unfortunately learned by TOO MUCH practice of an unsound technique which
were not nipped in the bud.
- In order to expand your knowledge and understanding of music, take every
opportunity to listen to as many great artistes as possible - not only horn
players, as music is a universal language and your instrument is only your
"voice". This exposure will help you decide on your own interpretation and
to make "poetry" of your music to the immense satisfaction of others and
yourself.
- Richard had problems with Articulation, transposition and time.
The first is technique,
The second is pure memory - until the transposition is second nature and the
piece can be played without hesitation, wrong fingerings or mispitched notes.
The third is musicianship. This requires Finesse, Focus and Concentration -
not HACKING unles you want to be an expert hacker.
Isolate these problems, work on them separately, then put them together.
- Finally remember that "MUSIC is not TECHNIQUE" but that "TECHNIQUE" often
gets in the way of "MUSIC". It is much more satisfactory to perform well
within ones technical capabilites and play really beautifully than the
opposite. However, in order to improve one's technique you need to be
working on pieces which give you a little "stretch" but not so difficult
that they incourage bad habits.
Francis Pau
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There are many different styles of learning so I would assume that
this method would not be useful for every one, but what about you
visual learners, others with photographic
memories?
I am a visual learner, and I have never been able to memorize music at
all on any wind instrument, though I have tried many times. I *can*
memorize piano things though...I guess because I can *see* all the
necessary elements (my hands). Funny thing is....I never learned to
play the piano properly and memorization is the only way I can play it!
Put a simple four part hymn in front of me and I can pick it out
slowly.....but I can play Beethoven's "Moonlight" or "Pathetique" with
no problem because I memorized them (very slowly)!
I also have a problem with music theory and thinking about
transpositions too. In order to transpose something or think about a
chord progression I have to "see" it on a piano keyboard in my head!
For particularly difficult things I have to sit at the keyboard to do
it. I have tried many times to memorize Horn and Flute parts and it
doesn't seem to work. I'm not sure why Horn doesn't work because I can
see my hand. Perhaps it is that the finger positions aren't unique to
one note as they are on the Piano?
Karen L. Comer
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I am a visual learner, and I have never been able to memorize music at
all on any wind instrument, though I have tried many times. I *can*
memorize piano things though...I guess because I can *see* all the
necessary elements (my hands). Funny thing is....I never learned to
play the piano properly and memorization is the only way I can play it!
Put a simple four part hymn in front of me and I can pick it out
slowly.....but I can play Beethoven's "Moonlight" or "Pathetique" with
no problem because I memorized them (very slowly)!
I also have a problem with music theory and thinking about
transpositions too. In order to transpose something or think about a
chord progression I have to "see" it on a piano keyboard in my head!
For particularly difficult things I have to sit at the keyboard to do
it. I have tried many times to memorize Horn and Flute parts and it
doesn't seem to work. I'm not sure why Horn doesn't work because I can
see my hand. Perhaps it is that the finger positions aren't unique to
one note as they are on the Piano?
I am a piano player and horn player also and I must say that piano is
easier to memorize on. You can actually see what you're doing. This is
why I picture the notes I play on horn, on the piano. You seem so visual,
this shouldn't be a problem. If you're playing a C on horn or have a
passage, plink it out on the piano (don't worry about transposing, it's
just too much to think about) and then visually remember what it looked
like so you can play it on the horn later. This is especially helpful for
finding 1/2 steps and whole steps (or the awakward fourth or fifth) for
trasposing. Just imagine you're at a piano! Notes are notes! I hope this
isn't too "untechnical" for all the pros out there that could probably
recommend the "174 Memorization Studies for Horn" by Imboring. This is
just my method to the maddness.
Chris Wingert
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Just imagine you're at a piano! Notes are notes!
I do that...and I seriously believe it slows me down. It is sort of
like speaking a foreign language by translating everything in your head
before you say it...the extra steps slow you down and you don't truly
speak the language.
Just last night I was doing some transposition on the computer. One of
the small Concert Bands I play in has only one flute so the director
asked me to transpose the Flute part so I could double her on Horn
(probably more like drown her out, but hey he's the director!) since
mostly I do Eb --> F transpositions I had to sit and think about that
one for awhile...I didn't cheat and let the computer do it for me
either! I ended up having to use the keyboard to visualize as usual!
Karen L. Comer
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Interesting topic. When I was younger, I had a piece memorized long
before I had it learned, because of my photographic memory. I also have
always had awful problems learning any piece well enough to have it go
on "automatic" -- what you need for performance, because the way I
played it was to read the picture of the sheet music in my mind; in
actuality, I just got better and better at sight-reading it, until I
could sight-read at the level of the piece. But performances have
always been sticky, because the physical playing never gets completely
grooved, because the focus is always mental, reading the sheet music in
my mind. And it gets worse, even, because I have "perfect" pitch and
read by pitch, not fingering or whatever. I see a pitch, hear it in my
head, and then play that pitch on whatever instrument I happen to be
holding. Anyone else do it this way?
And Karen, on piano I can hardly sight-read at all, but can learn pretty
difficult music by picking thru it slowly, learning it physically,
while on violin and horn th pitch method seems to take over.
Mary Ann
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I happen to be working on that very same concerto and mvt. I really never
thought that memorization was a weird concept. It came very natural to me
in high school when I really needed it for marching band. The very same
thing happened to me with transposition. But it can have its weaknesses:
One time, this past spring semester, I was working on the 1st mvt (of
the same concerto) for my jury (which is like a final exam for private
instruction). Each week, my instructor expected some improvement, which I
showed every week.
Two weeks before my jury, I told him I was getting a little tired. Then
I noticed that every week, the articulation marks were different. I told
him this and he asked if I wanted him to stop changing the marks. I
had a slip of the mouth, saying that I really should look at the music more.
Apparently, he didn't realize that I had actually memorized the entire
movement. But he took it the wrong way, saying that if I don't look at
the pieces often, then I should have NO excuse. He took it as though as I
didn't practice at all.
He finally calmed down, and I had a chance to explain what I meant.
What I'm saying is it really doesn't hurt to memorize your music, as long
as you have a good physical look at the piece every once in a while.
I get the jist of the piece in two days (with thanks to my perfect pitch
and quick transposition). The real hard work comes from getting the style
and articulation right. That can take days, weeks, months(?)....:-)
Angela (the fudge) Gonzales
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